Interview of Osfa

Osfa talks about knowledge, how the workshop can be connected to what’s happening on the streets and more….

1. Why did you choose this week to do the workshop?

[It wasn’t really our choice but Daphne Dragona’s, the workshop curator. But] indeed we thought it was very pertinent because of the political tension in the city these days, that makes more relevant the issues we are trying to think about during the workshop.

2. How is the production in the workshop linked to what is produced on the street at the time when the workshop is taking place (for example demonstrations, clashes, tear gas, demands, collective actions)?

The connection is direct, concerning the topics that we are addressing here, such as privatization, gentrification, and in general the conflicts of enclosure and the expropriation of the commons, that is, the resoruces and the products of social cooperation… At the same time, some participants in the workshop have been attending the demonstrations, and we have been producing and uploading videos of the current events.

3. The workshop was organized in a Museum with the collaboration of three Universities. These are all hegemonic institutions that safeguard knowledge production and impose hierarchies in knowledge production? How common is knowledge production produced in this context?

This is, of course, a very interesting question, and we believe we are conscious, to some extent, of the power-knowledge relationships that are at play. On one hand we think that there is no more “outside”. Bringing the conflict inside an hegemonic institution such as a museum is for us a relevant opportunity. We also think about the issue of symbolic capture. We understand that the autonomous, multitudinar, biopolitical production of these days, exceeds the possibility of capture, in the sense that we believe us to be building on a line of fugue that taken to the limit, would radically transform the museum as it is now, rather than strenghten its position.
We understand that in fact the production of these days is mainly a commons production… But one should never underestimate the potential of semio-capitalism… And of course, today, the commons, the networks, and the disocurses around them, are central loci of political, economic and subjective struggle.

4. Where do you think this project will go after leaving the Museum and the University?

We hope it will go on in the city, with different activist and autonomous research groups who have been participating in the workshops, and others that we wish could join the process. We think it could also take a global dimension of networked research and self-organzation, as the issues we are dealing with here, are obviously and foremost connected to biopolitical production which constitute, in our opinion, the form of contemporary global capitalism.

I am very interested my self, in developing a more detailed, more scientific research and mapping of the commons as the key to production in the networked society, and on the so called metropolis factory.

[I am also thinking of starting a research on a “zoology” of predators of the metropolitan commons: real-estate wolfs, gentrification eagles, temporary worker jackals, migrant coyotes, ip wild-dogs, public-services sharks, cultural producers lions, biopolitical vampires…]

Jose PL / osfa


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